george bush, you cannot used enhanced interrogation. >>brian: that is not what america does. >>steve: exactly right. this administration, we found out through a 15-page white paper that has been released -- nbc published it -- this administration and our government, rather than water board people, we kill them. the hypocrisy is amazing. when you take a look at how our president was talking a couple of years ago regarding enhanced interrogation techniques, in favor now of just killing them, it's stunning. watch. >> under my administration, the united states does not torture. my administration is going to operate in a way that leaves no doubt that we do not torture and that we abide by the geneva conventions. water boarding is torture. it's contrary to america's traditions. it's contrary to our ideals. that's not who we are. that's not how we operate. and anybody who actually read about and understands the practice of water boarding would say that that is torture. and that's not something we do. >>gretchen: it boils down to the fact that many people believed that one of the reasons thi
